what is science?
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sci·ence Pronunciation (sns)
n.
1.
a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.
3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.
4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.
5. Science Christian Science.
It seems that many on either side of the fence concerning evolution or intelligent design or creation teachings do not understand what science is supposed to be about. And what academia is supposed to be about.
First of all, in the science classes I had (I am no expert mind you) we were taught initially that there are some specific things that are "laws". And then there are the different things that we study that are all governed by these laws, but most of the time, in true science we learned that there is much we don't understand about the earth. So in doing experiments we gain a clearer picture of the truth but it is really about studying and determining as much as you can from the experiment. Science is really studying all the options and taking all the variables into account and making some assumptions based on these things.
It is not about having a set or specific "theory" that we base all of our science on. We should be basing our theories on our own studies, our own experiments and our just studying out the posssibilities.
Our students should not be taught in secular schools that "this is the way" or "that is the way" it happened. They should be taught more about how to go about figuring out how it happened versus being spoon fed someone elses theory. That is NOT science.
Also, same problem with academia in general. Many schools out there just want to feed people their own ideas and opinions about life and how it was or should be and how we should live it. They do this instead of showing students all of the different options and having true academic discussion about these ideas and how they affect the world around us. Not that every philosophy is right or wrong, because some are clearly hateful etc., but colleges and universities should be places where people learn to decide for themselves what is right. We all have that responsibility, but our schools don't want us to do this, they want to brainwash kids into believing everyone from the professors favorite stream of thinking is all there is. Students should all be given the opportunity to see things for what they really are.
If we are to have true academia in this country. But I do believe we are far past having that and there is no going back. So I will continue to preach my message and hope people are bold enough to think for themselves, since no one gave them the opportunity to hear it objectively before.
sci·ence Pronunciation (sns)
n.
1.
a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study: I've got packing a suitcase down to a science.
3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.
4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience.
5. Science Christian Science.
It seems that many on either side of the fence concerning evolution or intelligent design or creation teachings do not understand what science is supposed to be about. And what academia is supposed to be about.
First of all, in the science classes I had (I am no expert mind you) we were taught initially that there are some specific things that are "laws". And then there are the different things that we study that are all governed by these laws, but most of the time, in true science we learned that there is much we don't understand about the earth. So in doing experiments we gain a clearer picture of the truth but it is really about studying and determining as much as you can from the experiment. Science is really studying all the options and taking all the variables into account and making some assumptions based on these things.
It is not about having a set or specific "theory" that we base all of our science on. We should be basing our theories on our own studies, our own experiments and our just studying out the posssibilities.
Our students should not be taught in secular schools that "this is the way" or "that is the way" it happened. They should be taught more about how to go about figuring out how it happened versus being spoon fed someone elses theory. That is NOT science.
Also, same problem with academia in general. Many schools out there just want to feed people their own ideas and opinions about life and how it was or should be and how we should live it. They do this instead of showing students all of the different options and having true academic discussion about these ideas and how they affect the world around us. Not that every philosophy is right or wrong, because some are clearly hateful etc., but colleges and universities should be places where people learn to decide for themselves what is right. We all have that responsibility, but our schools don't want us to do this, they want to brainwash kids into believing everyone from the professors favorite stream of thinking is all there is. Students should all be given the opportunity to see things for what they really are.
If we are to have true academia in this country. But I do believe we are far past having that and there is no going back. So I will continue to preach my message and hope people are bold enough to think for themselves, since no one gave them the opportunity to hear it objectively before.
posted by Heather Simpson | 1:16 PM
6 Comments:
But doesn't the Bible simply tell us what is right?
No science necessary. The answers are all right there.
isn't it wise in all honesty for a person to be able to decide for themself to be presented with all the options? The Bible does tell us what is right, but it does not say to be ignorant of everything else.
I completely believe the Bible, but many people are told why it is untrue, when they have never been presented with information from each side.
People should have the ability to decide for themselves. That is what is so great about God, He wants us to decide for ourselves.
How do you reconcile the biblical account that the universe is only around 6000 years old with the scientific account that says it's at least 13 billion years old (give or take)?
It's also interesting that Genesis says that the light was divided from the darkness before the Sun and the stars were created. A neat trick. (and besides, why would it need to be "divided" anyway? Isn't there darkness automatically without light?)
Also, what do you think of Genesis Chapter 30, where Jacob increases his wealth by showing colored sticks to the flock in his care?
And how do you explain the Bible's contention that insects have 4 legs? (See Leviticus 11:20-23--though some translations give the impression that it's Birds being discussed. 4-legged birds?)
I could go on, but it's already been done. I highly recommend this page as a starting point.
As one who counsels looking at both sides of the issue, I trust you'll get right on that!
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/183.asp
First check this page for the insect q and a.
Second, this site along with the others below, easily explain the different problems with the theory of evolution. There obviously is a small degree of evolution, but not on the scale people claim.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000308081611.htm
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/LifeSciences46.html#wp1443825
http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/C14a.htm
Third, I believe that the dating of the earth is scewed by the pre-flood atmosphere being completely different than what we have today. Do we really have any way to test the fossils and things accurately with a completely different environment.
Before God created "light", everything was light, and there WAS no darkness, HE filled every part of everything that existed with the Light of Himself. He created the substance of light, since before, everything was in the eternal realm. The supernatural realm, not the physical.
I know, it is hard to get your head around isn't it?
What do you think about Jacob and the stick? Well, obviously there was either a supernatural explanation or a natural one that is not explained.
One thing many people do not comprehend about the Bible is that there is so much more to it than just physical things...you may see "contradictions" and I can easily explain why all of the story is true, but one person had a completely different perspective than the other and so tells a different part of the story.
There are many people out there that explain each side of this. I have spent time already examining the evidence. I don't need to again, however I advocate offering students a fair examination for themselves. If they are so hung up on having a perfect "natural or physical" explanation and deny the existance of Something more than what we see, that is their choice. But they are not given a choice. They don't have all of the info laid out before them. This is what is wrong. But if you disagree with that, I wonder why..since it seems so simple to just "look at the facts" as if the physical facts are all we should examine, and only from the evolutionary standpoint.
Scientists have a real advantage over dogmatists like the Biblical apologists you mention.
When a scientist finds strong evidence of something that conflicts with the Bible, since he's not wedded to the Bible, it's the Bible that gets thrown out. In the apologist's case, on the other hand, it's the science that gets thrown out.
By the way, I don't see the relevance of your Answers in Genesis link. I never mentioned Plimer, nor did I ever say that people can't make mistakes.
The Science Daily link doesn't take me to any particular page.
The Creation Science link goes to an article making a bad argument for "intelligent design"--something which is not science because it makes no testable predictions and does no experimentation. As I said in my previous comment, they know what their conclusion is, so they don't look to hard for ways to falsify it. That's not science.
Regarding the rest of your comment, none of what you say is based in science in any way. They are simply bald propositions unsupported by any evidence whatsoever. Sorry to disappoint.
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